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- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:01:04 PST
- From: Marc Schrier <schrier@garnet.berkeley.edu>
- Subject: [*] Crystal Speedup History 2.3
-
- Mac Crystal Oscillator Speedup History 2.3 April 1994
-
- There has been a great deal of interest expressed over the net about
- these simple and inexpensive Macintosh modifications that yield 20-
- 40% speed increases. Over the last year or so I have been doing a
- fair amount of crystal oscillator swapping/acceleration on Mac's,
- and gathering information from others. I've made several posts to
- comp.sys.mac.hardware with the bulk of this info and as new
- machines come out, and new concerns surface, I will try to add them
- to this history of the modifications, post them on
- comp.sys.mac.hardware and make them available for anonymous ftp
- on sumex-aim.stanford.edu in /info-mac/info/hdwr. Included in this
- version is some of the news on the PowerMac's and Marlin Prowell's
- new C650 modification.
-
-
- A little background:
- All computers operate at a certain frequency with which operations
- are performed. Within a certain class of computers, for example
- Mac's with a 68030 processor, the higher the frequency, the higher
- frequency of operations processed, and the faster the computer
- provided there is no other speed effecting hardware like a cache or
- slow data path. The designer of the computer, Apple in this case,
- will use components that are rated at the same frequency or faster
- than the final computer will be. The 68030's are made by Motorola.
- All 68030's are generally alike in what they do, but they are not
- alike in how fast they can do it. Motorola sells several 68030
- processors rated at 16, 20, 25, 33, 40 and 50MHz for Mac's,
- accelerators and such. A large frequency difference will require a
- different mask during production of the processor, but small changes
- may not. Motorola only needs to guarantee that the chip they mark
- as 20MHz will function properly at 20MHz under a variety of
- conditions. Some chip vendors will test parts at different
- frequencies and sort the chips accordingly while others may just
- label the them at will and sell the chips at the different price as
- long as they are within spec. So it is possible that the 20 and 25's
- actually come from the same batch, are separated on demand, and
- tested to make sure they will withstand that frequency. Because of
- this, it is possible that a 20MHz processor will function fine at a
- higher frequency, say 25MHz. Running it faster will however
- generate more heat.
-
- Many of the components in the computer need to be synchronized, so
- a frequency is generated by a crystal oscillator to synchronize them.
- Other parts like NuBus cards and video do not have to be the same
- frequency, so they may have separate crystal oscillators. A typical
- computer may have several crystal oscillators to clock different
- groups of components on the motherboard. Provided the components
- that are clocked by a particular crystal oscillator are capable of a
- speed increase, that crystal oscillator may be replaced with one of a
- higher frequency. How much a specific Mac can be sped up by this
- method depends on how the motherboard was designed, the
- components used, and what things the crystal oscillator that
- controls the processor also controls. With some of the newer Mac's,
- there are a few MHz differences in the top speeds reported for the
- same model, so part of this is luck of the draw.
-
- This crystal oscillator swapping has been done for years, and some
- early computers even had jumpers that made it really easy to
- disable one oscillator and enable another higher frequency one. The
- first Mac's to be modified were the IIsi's. A stock IIsi's runs at
- 20MHz, and IIci's at 25MHz, and since the architecture of these
- machines was so similar it seemed reasonable to run a IIsi at IIci
- speeds. Another important factor was that earlier Mac's had just
- one crystal oscillator that controlled everything, and if you replaced
- it you would mess things up. The IIsi was different as some noted
- through its frequency deviation from its 8 and 16MHz precursors
- where the main frequency was halved and quartered to run the CPU,
- serial ports, video... The IIsi was different, it had 4 crystal
- oscillators, only one of which controlled the processor speed.
-
- The Crystal Oscillator:
- The type of crystal oscillator in the early Mac's is a full size, 14 pin
- package, TTL type crystal oscillator. It is a rectangular metal can,
- with approximate dimensions of 2.0 x 1.3cm and typically about 0.3-
- 0.6cm high. All crystal oscillators have 4 pins. Some are numbered
- 1,2,3,4 and others 1,7,8,14. Pin 1 is always the pin next to the
- pointed edge (the others are rounded), with the dot, or next to the
- indentation on the newer CMOS, or surface mount crystal oscillators.
- With the pins facing down, put the dot, or indentation to your left,
- and the pin on the left, closest to you is pin 1. Going counter
- clockwise, pin 2 (or 7, depending on what numbering scheme) is to
- the right, Pin 3(8) right side and further away, and 4(14) left side,
- and further away. Pin 1 on all the newer Mac's with surface mount
- crystal oscillators, and some of the older ones is an output
- enable/disable pin (OE). On some of the crystal oscillators you
- purchase Pin 1 will be OE, yet on many it will not be used (no
- contact (NC)). It is not important which you get as you will not be
- using the output enable feature. Pin 2(7) is a ground. Pin 3(8) is the
- output. Pin 4(14) is the supply voltage, +5 VDC. I've checked a few
- of the older type Mac's, and the oscillator on Mac Plus's is not OE,
- while the ones on the IIsi's and Quadra 700's are OE. I'm not sure
- why Apple uses these type of oscillators instead of the ones where
- pin 1 is not used. I guess it is possible that something on the circuit
- board can ground pin 1 and stop or restart the computer. If anyone
- knows, please let me know. Printed on the crystal oscillator will be
- its manufacturer, part numbers, and frequency. On these early Mac's,
- the processor runs at half the speed of the oscillator, so a 20MHz
- Mac IIsi has a 40MHz crystal oscillator.
-
- There are several different modification techniques. They will all
- give you the same final max speed. Some are just easier or more
- elegant than others. As with all these modifications, even though
- there may be no visible sign that you modified your Mac, you have
- voided the warranty on the Mac. As Apple states:
-
- "This warranty does not apply if the product has been damaged by
- accident, abuse, misuse, or misapplication; if the product has been
- modified without the written permission of Apple; or if any Apple
- serial number has been removed or defaced."
-
-
- This is what I seem to be finding. These numbers vary from Mac to
- Mac, so these are just averages. Some machines will go faster than
- this. These are the oscillators that Output Enablers ships in their
- kits.
-
-
- Modifications:
-
- Machine Mod-1 Mod-2 Mod-3 Oscillator/speed Final Oscillator/speed
- IIsi yes yes no 40/20 55/27.5MHz
- C610 yes no yes 10/20 14-14.31818/28.6MHz
- C650 yes no yes 12.5/25 14.31818-14.75/29.5MHz
- C650-mod yes no yes 12.5/25 20/40MHz
- C660av yes no yes 12.5/25 16-17.496/35MHz
- Q610 yes no yes 12.5/25 15-15.288/30.6MHz
- Q650 yes no yes 16.6667/33.3 21-22/44MHz
- Q660av yes no yes 12.5/25 16-17.496/35MHz
- Q700 yes yes no 50/25 70/35MHz
- Q800 yes no yes 16.6667/33.3 20-21/42MHz
- Q840av yes no yes 20/40 23.247-24/48MHz
- Q900 yes yes no 50/25 70/35MHz
- Q950 yes yes no 66/33 ?75-80/?40MHz
- PM6100 yes no yes 30/60 40/80MHz
- PM7100 yes no yes 33/66 ?45/?90MHz
- PM8100 yes no yes 40/80 ?50/?100MHz
-
-
-
- Mod-1
-
- The basic idea of Modification #1 is removing the onboard oscillator,
- and replacing it with a faster one. This is the mod most people use
- on the IIsi, Q700, Q900, & Q950.
-
- The basic procedure used is that you have to unsolder the TTL
- crystal oscillator from the motherboard on the Mac, and put in a new
- one. Instead of putting one straight onto the board, it is nice to use
- a socket so you can test your individual Mac, and see what the cutoff
- frequency is, and you can always put the original oscillator back in
- the socket.
-
- First find the crystal oscillator by referring to the previous table
- and description of physical characteristics. Be careful when you
- remove the oscillator. Most people just use a normal soldering iron,
- and are fine; a grounded (three prong soldering iron) would be a bit
- safer. They just use copper wick to soak up the solder from all four
- pins, and pop out the proper oscillator. Because the boards are
- multilayer, be careful not to damage anything; be gentle. There was
- recently one report of a guy who damaged his IIsi board doing this.
- But that was the only incident I had ever heard of, and lots and lots
- of people have done this. I use a "desoldering iron". They melt the
- solder, and have a pump to suck out the solder while you swirl the
- pin from the oscillator around to get all the solder out. After you
- have done all 4, if you have done a good job, the oscillator just pops
- out. If you have access to one of these desoldering irons, I highly
- suggest you use it as it does a cleaner job, and there is less risk of
- burning (discoloring) the board. Next, take a 14 pin IC socket,
- remove all the pins but 1,7,8, and 14, and solder it into the board
- (see Modification #3 for a Digi-key part number). Make sure you put
- it in so pin 1 will go into pin 1, 2-2, 3-3, 4-4. And the notch in the
- socket should face the same way the dot on the old oscillator was
- facing. Now just put in a faster oscillator.
-
- I have done this to a few IIsi, and the highest frequency we could get
- to work without problems was 27.5MHz. Thus a speed increase from
- 20 to 27.5MHz. The actual crystal is 55MHz (double the frequency).
- TTL 55MHz crystal oscillators do exist, but they are rare. The thing
- most people seem to do is get a CMOS oscillator, and they work just
- fine. Digi-Key sells a 55MHz CMOS crystal oscillator in a 14 pin
- package, part# SE1509. At 58.9 and above, there are problems with
- the floppy drive; you cannot boot the Mac from a floppy, but other
- than that it is fine until just over 30MHz. I recently had a IIsi at
- 28.3MHz and it was fine. Be warned that some cards may not work
- after this modification. Most will work at 25MHz, but will not at
- 27.5MHz, so just stick with 25MHz if that is the case.
-
- The IIsi does not come with a heatsink, so to reduce the heat in the
- processor, get a small heat sink to attach to the 68030 to cool it
- down; any heat sink will do; the more surface area the faster heat
- will be dissipated. Be careful when you put on the heat sink.
- Typically you'll use some heat transfer grease, but the heat sink can
- slide off if the Mac is moved, and the heat sink might short
- something out. The best thing seems to be to get a heat sink with a
- hole in the middle, or drill one yourself, use the heat transfer
- grease, but also put a small drop of super glue through the hole in
- the heat sink onto the chip or put a drop on the side, and this should
- hold it in place. Fry's sells nice heat sink/fan combo's. They run $10
- and up, and I think they are more than you need, but it should keep
- the processor cooler. I believe they come with a Y cable to tap into
- your hard drive power cable to power the fan. A more complete FAQ
- on this modification for a IIsi is available via anonymous ftp from
- sumex.stanford.edu in info-mac/info/hdwr (iisi-25mhz-upgrade-
- faq.txt).
-
- For the Quadra 700 and 900, you can get 70MHz TTL crystals from
- Fry's. The 70MHz may not work, and you may have to back down to
- 66.6666MHz, the next most common frequency, Digi-Key part#
- CTX137. The Q700, Q900, and Q950 come with a heatsink installed.
- A more complete file on this modification for a Quadra 700 is also
- available via anonymous ftp from sumex.stanford.edu in info-
- mac/info/hdwr (quadra-700-clock-mod-145.txt).
-
- It has been reported for, but I have not yet done a Q950, but the
- general idea is the same. If anyone has any more info on doing a
- Q950, please e-mail me and I'll add it.
-
-
- Mod-2
-
- The basic idea of Modification #2 is to disable the onboard
- oscillator with a jumper and feed in a new signal on the back of the
- board. There are very few who have performed this mod, but I feel it
- is more elegant and safer since you don't have to remove the onboard
- oscillator. This newer, and less evasive method has been performed
- on IIsi's & Q700's by myself, and should work fine on the Q900 &
- Q950.
-
- The most difficult and risky part of "Mod-1" above is the removal of
- the oscillator, and this is an alternative procedure that gets around
- that since the crystal oscillators Apple uses have pin 1 as OE. On a
- crystal oscillator with pin 1 as OE, if you ground pin 1, you disable
- the output from pin 3(8), and you can feed a new signal into pin 3(8)
- without removing the original crystal oscillator.
- Several months ago I performed this modification on a Quadra 700 by
- tacking (soldering) a jumper on the back of the motherboard between
- pins 1 and 2(7) of the 50MHz oscillator, and ran wires about 8 inches
- long each from pins 2(7), 3(8), and 4(14) to a 14 pin socket attached
- to the inside of the Q700 with pins in positions 7, 8, and 14. Into
- this we placed a 70MHz crystal oscillator and the Mac ran fine at
- 35MHz and is still doing fine. This modification is nice in that it is
- a bit less risky as far as damage to the motherboard, but you have to
- be careful to use thin wires in order to make clean solder joints.
- With this modification you could remove the wires at a later date to
- return to the original configuration more cleanly. I cannot say for
- sure if this will work on a Q900 or Q950 until I put one of those
- crystals on a scope, or actually try the modification, but am pretty
- sure it will. If anyone has removed a crystal from a Q900 or Q950
- and still has it, I'd be glad to check it out and send it back to you.
-
-
- Mod-3
-
- The basic idea of modification #3 is building a clip that disables the
- onboard oscillator, and feeds in a new, faster signal. The beauty of
- this modification over the others is that you do not have to do any
- soldering on the motherboard itself, just on the part you clip onto
- the surface mount crystal oscillator in your Mac. This is the
- modification most people use on the C610, C650, C660av, Q610,
- Q650, Q660av, Q800, Q840av, PM6100, PM7100, PM8100.
-
- The really neat thing about this came into play in February 1992
- when Apple released the Centris 610, 650, and Quadra 800. In these
- machines and since, Apple has been using surface mount crystal
- oscillators. Now that Apple was using surface mount crystal
- oscillators, there was plenty of accessible area on the metal tabs of
- the oscillator. In June '93 Guy Kuo reported the first crystal swap
- of sorts on a Centris 610 to the net. He soldered pins 3, 5, 10, and
- 12 of a 14 pin socket directly onto the surface mount crystal
- oscillator. Because the pins on a TTL type crystal oscillator are at
- positions 1, 7, 8, and 14, he made jumpers between pins 5-7, 8-10,
- and 12-14. He disabled the on-board surface mount crystal
- oscillator with a jumper between 3-5. Then put the new crystal in
- the socket. This file is also available on SUMEX in info-
- mac/info/hdwr (centris-610-clock-mod-11).
- I was a little hesitant about soldering onto my new Quadra 800, so
- wrote to him a few days later about using a surface mount test clip,
- and asked his thoughts. He suspected I could not find a reasonable
- test clip, but otherwise believed it would work. A few days later
- the 3M surface mount test clip arrived, and the test clip worked
- perfectly. I was running my Quadra 800 at 40MHz, with no problems,
- and best of all the modification was all contained in a simple little
- clip that could be removed without trace at will. And thus the
- removable test clip approach was born. My Q800 even worked at
- 48MHz as long as I did not access the serial ports. A few days later
- I got several crystals, and found the highest frequency on my Quadra
- 800 to be 42.0MHz. Since then I've tried it at 42.106MHz, and the
- serial ports did not work, so the cutoff for my Q800 was at 42.0MHz.
- If you never use your serial ports, 48MHz worked fine for me, while
- at 50MHz my Mac was not happy and would not boot.
-
- So if you are still interested, you will need a surface mount test
- clip; 3M and Pomona make them, and I prefer the 3M ones. Make sure
- you get a surface mount test clip. The I.C. test clips also work, but I
- prefer the surface mount SOIC (small outline integrated circuit)
- ones. A 10, 12, 14, 16, or 18 pin clip will be fine. I'd say go with a
- 14 or 16 narrow or wide.
-
- 14 pin, part# 923650-14-ND $6.58
- 16 pin, part# 923650-16-ND $6.96
-
- These are the part numbers for the ones with alloy leads; I used to
- recommend the gold coated ones, but the resistance/corrosion effect
- is minimal.
-
- You will also need a 14 pin IC socket, there are plenty of types. The
- machined pin ones are nice because you can pop out the pins that are
- not needed to get them out of the way since you only need three pins
- in the socket.
-
- 14 pin IC socket w/tin pins, part# ED3114 $0.57
-
- You will also need an oscillator (more on this later), a little wire,
- soldering iron, solder, and possibly heat sink depending on the
- machine. For a C610, C660av, Q610, and Q660av you should add a
- heat sink, HS160-ND is the 0.600 inch one, and is plenty ($3.98).
-
- The others already have heat sinks, and do not get too hot. I had an
- extra fan with my Q800, but removed it, and it has been fine. The
- heat sinks come with the clips needed to attach them to the chip.
- These are a bit of a pain, you just have to work at it for a while.
- There may be several ways to do it, but I just slide the clips on from
- the side. Sometimes they fall off half way there, but eventually it
- works. Some people have been using the heat sink/fan combo's. I
- have not, but they seem to work fine as well. The new Q610 and
- Q660av computers are based on a new mask of the 68040 that comes
- at 25MHz without a heatsink (There is an "H" after the '040 and
- before the "RC"). This is the same mask as the C660av and Q840av
- uses. If you do the modification on them it would be best to add a
- heat sink.
-
- How to put it all together:
-
- Stand the clip so it's jaws are facing down, and the rows of pins go
- >From left to right, and call the closer row A and the further row B.
- Number the pins from left to right 1 through 7 (for the 14 pin clip).
- Next place the IC socket with the pins down, and the notch to the
- left, and number the pins as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 in the row closest to
- you, going left to right. The other row is numbered 8, 9, 10, 11, 12,
- 13, 14 as you go right to left (back towards the notch).
- Now starting with the test clip, leave pins in positions A2, A6, B2,
- and B6. Next solder a little jumper wire between pins A2 and A6.
- Now get the 14 pin IC socket, and remove all the pins but 7, 8, and
- 14. Solder a jumper wire from pin 7 on the IC socket to the
- jumpered pins on the clip, either A2 or A6. Also solder a jumper
- wire from pin 8 to pin B6, and pin 14 to pin B2.
- If you get the narrow clip, you may want to replace the spring with
- one with less tension; they are like $0.30 at hardware stores, and I
- cut them into two springs. This way you don't have to push so hard,
- and it is easier to position on the motherboard. Now put the crystal
- in the socket with pin 1 in 1, 2 in 2, 3 in 3 and 4 in 4.
-
- There are several surface mount oscillators used on the
- motherboards. The proper surface mount crystal oscillator on the
- mother board will have a frequency on it half that of your computer
- and can be determined from the above list.
-
- That is it, now you just clamp it onto the surface mount crystal
- oscillator with the notch on the socket facing the same way as the
- surface mount crystal oscillator. And watch to make sure the little
- pins clamp onto the surface mount chip. You may want to use a
- flashlight for this. These clips hang on very, very well, I've never
- had mine move in the last 9 months, nor any of the other ones I've
- done.
-
-
- Centris 610 Ethernet Problems:
-
- Those Centris 610's that have ethernet capability share the 10MHz
- oscillator with the CPU. If you replace that oscillator with a
- different one, your ethernet will no longer work. In January, Eckart
- Hasselbrink (Hasselbrink@fhi-berlin.mpg.de) posted a fairly simple
- hardware modification to fix this to comp.sys.mac.hardware. So if
- you plan to use you ethernet on your Centris 650 and speed it up, you
- will need to perform Eckart's modification first.
-
-
- PowerMac's:
-
- I have only done PM6100's, and it works fine at 80MHz. At 86MHz it
- overheats quite rapidly. With a cool hairdryer cooling the heatsink
- on the 601, it worked fine, but was a bit noisy :-). See the table to
- see which oscillator you will need to clip onto. This mod should
- work just fine on the 7100 and 8100 computers as well. On the
- 8100 the power supply may be in the way of the clip. If anyone in
- the Bay Area has a PM7100 or PM8100 and wants to try it, drop me a
- line and we can give it a spin. Or if anyone tries it, please let me
- know how it goes so I can add it to this file and pass it on to others
- who ask. The guesses on the chart about what oscillator to use for
- the PM7100 and PM8100 are just that, guesses.
-
-
- On most of these newer machines, the problem is with the serial
- ports, but the speed of the memory is also important, so if you plan
- to boost your Mac very far, you may need faster SIMM's.
-
- To test out the modification, the best thing to do is just use it a
- while. You can run Speedometer 3.23 (available at SUMEX in info-
- mac/cfg) to see the changes. I use Snooper with the serial port
- loopback plugs to check the serial ports to find their limits; Snooper
- also tells you what frequency you are running at in round numbers.
- Snooper was made by Maxa, and I am told Snooper is currently owned
- by Central Point Software. The current version of MacCheck is 1.0.5
- (available on bric-a-brac.apple.com), and it now properly reports the
- computer frequency.
-
- If your Mac does not give the standard chime at startup it means
- your clip is only half on. It is disabling the surface mount
- oscillator, but not replacing it. Just remove the clip, reposition, and
- try again.
-
-
- Special C650 Mod:
-
- Using the above clips, the max frequency for a Centris 650 is about
- 30MHz before you encounter serial port problems. Marlin Prowell
- (mbp@janus.com) following up on a hunch by James McPhail
- (jmacphai@cue.bc.ca) looked into the differences between the C650
- and Q800 motherboards in hopes that a simple modification might
- enable the serial ports to function properly at 33MHz (Q800 normal
- frequency) or higher. On the bottom of the motherboard, under the
- IOSB chip, Marlin found two differences. R151 is installed on the
- C650's, and is missing on the Q800's. R152 is missing on the C650's,
- and is installed on the Q800. R151 is a 300 ohms resistor and R152
- is a 1.2k ohm resistor. Looking at the bottom of the board, with the
- back away from you, R151 is 3 3/4" from the right, and 3" down. The
- tabs for R152 are 4" from the right, and 3" down. R151 is black, and
- says 301 on it.
- Marlin felt that R151 was glued to the board, and just using solder
- braid he was unable to remove the resistor for fear that prying it off
- may damage the traces that run under it. Heating the resistor with a
- soldering iron Marlin was eventually able to soften the glue and
- remove the resistor. Or you can use James McPhail's two soldering
- iron Western technique with a soldering iron in each hand to heat
- each side simultaneously and flip the resistor off the board. Now
- just add the R152. Marlin suggests holding the surface mount
- resistor in place with a small screwdriver while soldering it to the
- exposed pads on the board.
- Marlin has since used both the serial and modem ports error free
- while running his C650 at 40MHz, and MacCheck reports no problems.
- He has also checked to make sure the ethernet works, and it does.
- Since Marlin's initial modification, it has been confirmed by at least
- three people. On some of these Mac's the CPU overheats after a
- while, so Marlin suggests you add a fan to dissipate the heat faster
- >From the heatsink. You can also just run a bit slower, say 38MHz.
- You can purchase these 1.2k resistors from Digi-Key, but the
- minimum order is 200 of them. If you e-mail your address to Output
- Enablers at oe@well.sf.ca.us, they will send you a free resistor left
- over from Marlin's extra 199.
- ****This modification makes your Mac think it has become a Quadra
- 650, and the Quadra 650 did not exist when most of you purchased
- your Centris 650. The System Enabler 040 that came with your
- Centris 650, version 1.0, will not work after this modification, and
- your Mac will not start up unless you have already updated the
- System Enabler 040 to version 1.1, the current version. The System
- Enabler 040 version 1.1 is available from your local Apple Dealer, or
- you can ftp it from bric-a-brac.apple.com. Marlin suggests you also
- put the new enabler on all your recovery utility disks as well so you
- will be prepared next time something goes wrong.****
-
-
- Recently a few companies have been started that replace the crystal
- oscillator in powerbooks to speed them up, and add a 68882. I have
- some ideas on how to do this, and the precautions to make. Has
- anyone done it themselves? I have some info from Virgil Mehalek
- (vm@christa.unh.edu) who noted the differences between the 140 and
- 170. I'm not going to add that info until it has been attempted, but
- if anyone is interested in a copy of that info I can forward it to you.
- One important addition thanks to Virgil, worth noting now is that
- Active Electronics (800) 228-4836 sells the 33MHz MC68882-FN33A
- for $76.95 plus S&H.
-
- Address' for some other parts suppliers:
-
- Fry's Electronics
- 340 Portage Ave
- Palo Alto, CA
- (415) 496-6000
-
- Digi-Key
- (800) 344-4539
-
- Output Enablers
- 1678 Shattuck Ave. Suite # 247
- Berkeley, CA 94709
- oe@well.sf.ca.us
-
- There are currently two companies that sell already made clip-on
- kits for the Mac's with surface mount crystal oscillators.
-
- KS Labs
- 6326 E. Livingston Ave, Suite 131
- Reynoldsburg, OH 43068
- $165/kit
-
- Output Enablers
- 1678 Shattuck Ave. Suite # 247
- Berkeley, CA 94709
- oe@well.sf.ca.us
- $50/kit
-
- If you have gotten any of these new machines to work, please let me
- know. Or if you have any questions or comments that should be
- added to this, feel free to e-mail me as well.
-
-
- Marc Schrier
- schrier@garnet.berkeley.edu
-
-
- Disclaimer: I have been posting this info for quite some time, and I
- am now associated with Output Enablers. I would like to continue to
- update and post this unbiased information as long as there is
- interest on the net. Any opinions represented here are mine, not
- necessarily those of Output Enablers.
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